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		<title>By: A Free Man</title>
		<link>http://noblesavage.me.uk/2009/11/18/leave-them-kids-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-4186</link>
		<dc:creator>A Free Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, the Twilight thing and all the vampire junk that it has spawned drives me nuts. Though I&#039;m not sure that is really a &#039;teen&#039; thing. I loved the Harry Potter books and I didn&#039;t have kids at the time. But I think that it&#039;s important to try to relate to your kids as much as possible, will make the teen years more tolerable. If that means that I have to feign interest in whatever teen book/movie/music they get into at the time, then I&#039;ll give it my best shot. One of the many reasons I started to drift away from my parents around 13 is that they didn&#039;t take my interests seriously. I know that that drive to independence is unavoidable and healthy, but if I can relate to my kids on more levels I&#039;ll do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, the Twilight thing and all the vampire junk that it has spawned drives me nuts. Though I&#8217;m not sure that is really a &#8216;teen&#8217; thing. I loved the Harry Potter books and I didn&#8217;t have kids at the time. But I think that it&#8217;s important to try to relate to your kids as much as possible, will make the teen years more tolerable. If that means that I have to feign interest in whatever teen book/movie/music they get into at the time, then I&#8217;ll give it my best shot. One of the many reasons I started to drift away from my parents around 13 is that they didn&#8217;t take my interests seriously. I know that that drive to independence is unavoidable and healthy, but if I can relate to my kids on more levels I&#8217;ll do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica - This is Worthwhile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica - This is Worthwhile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with @FeministBreeder re: Twilight, it&#039;s not really fare suitable for tweens or even teenagers.  I *might* consider letting my teenager read it, but with discussion about obsession, codependence, depression, sexual tension and desires, soul, and fidelity. I would be very concerned for her to read that (or even my son) and have her think that this was all normal - much like romance novels of the Harlequin variety, fiction like that on a young and impressionable mind can really do some damage to real-life expectations.

The reason I think so many adults, women in particular, are drawn to the Twilight series is because we know it&#039;s a fantasy and can wrap our heads around it.  We don&#039;t think dating a gorgeous 17 yo with the mind of a wizened 107 yo (or however old he is) is even remotely feasible, but it&#039;s a delicious thought based solely in its absurd fantastical flair.  A young woman, its intended audience, might not realize that.  So there we have two demographics loving the books for two totally different reasons: one for fantasy, the other for hope.

Anyway, I know I went a bit off course, but I just had to throw in my two cents about Twilight.  Personally, I was on Cloud 9 reading them and really do recommend every grown woman, especially married ones, to read them.  It&#039;s like a hot bubble bath, glass of wine, foot rub, and full night&#039;s sleep all rolled into one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with @FeministBreeder re: Twilight, it&#8217;s not really fare suitable for tweens or even teenagers.  I *might* consider letting my teenager read it, but with discussion about obsession, codependence, depression, sexual tension and desires, soul, and fidelity. I would be very concerned for her to read that (or even my son) and have her think that this was all normal &#8211; much like romance novels of the Harlequin variety, fiction like that on a young and impressionable mind can really do some damage to real-life expectations.</p>
<p>The reason I think so many adults, women in particular, are drawn to the Twilight series is because we know it&#8217;s a fantasy and can wrap our heads around it.  We don&#8217;t think dating a gorgeous 17 yo with the mind of a wizened 107 yo (or however old he is) is even remotely feasible, but it&#8217;s a delicious thought based solely in its absurd fantastical flair.  A young woman, its intended audience, might not realize that.  So there we have two demographics loving the books for two totally different reasons: one for fantasy, the other for hope.</p>
<p>Anyway, I know I went a bit off course, but I just had to throw in my two cents about Twilight.  Personally, I was on Cloud 9 reading them and really do recommend every grown woman, especially married ones, to read them.  It&#8217;s like a hot bubble bath, glass of wine, foot rub, and full night&#8217;s sleep all rolled into one.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://noblesavage.me.uk/2009/11/18/leave-them-kids-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-4150</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya NS,

I may well have to disagree with you strongly about teenagers needing literary separation from their parents! Maybe I just have an abnormal relationship with my family, but enjoying things together has always been a big part of our life. Perhaps because my mother was a librarian! We&#039;ve always been interested in the same things - literature, movies, tv, food...Of course there are things from my teenage years that were private and personal and I needed that, but I don&#039;t think I could ever have hated my family for appropriating &#039;my stuff&#039;. Everyone&#039;s different I spose :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya NS,</p>
<p>I may well have to disagree with you strongly about teenagers needing literary separation from their parents! Maybe I just have an abnormal relationship with my family, but enjoying things together has always been a big part of our life. Perhaps because my mother was a librarian! We&#8217;ve always been interested in the same things &#8211; literature, movies, tv, food&#8230;Of course there are things from my teenage years that were private and personal and I needed that, but I don&#8217;t think I could ever have hated my family for appropriating &#8216;my stuff&#8217;. Everyone&#8217;s different I spose <img src='http://noblesavage.me.uk/WP/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: To read or not to read? &#171; An alien voice under a duvet of dreams.</title>
		<link>http://noblesavage.me.uk/2009/11/18/leave-them-kids-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-4146</link>
		<dc:creator>To read or not to read? &#171; An alien voice under a duvet of dreams.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harry Potter, Neil Gaiman, Twilight.  trackback  This post is generally a reaction to a post on Noble Savage&#8217;s blog about Twilight and young adult literature. Now, while I was not offended per se, I did [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harry Potter, Neil Gaiman, Twilight.  trackback  This post is generally a reaction to a post on Noble Savage&#8217;s blog about Twilight and young adult literature. Now, while I was not offended per se, I did [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hannah Montana and High School Musical are for &#039;tweens&#039; (don&#039;t you know) so there won&#039;t be many parents ready to admit any &#039;fan&#039; feelings towards them, though Zak Efron is becoming a figure of lust for some since 17 Again as he &#039;crosses over&#039;.
I think it&#039;s worse with music too. Years back I remember a new word being coined in newspaper reports - &#039;kidults&#039; and this was used to describe people who liked &#039;boy bands&#039; and Saturday morning telly - can&#039;t be many of them left!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannah Montana and High School Musical are for &#8216;tweens&#8217; (don&#8217;t you know) so there won&#8217;t be many parents ready to admit any &#8216;fan&#8217; feelings towards them, though Zak Efron is becoming a figure of lust for some since 17 Again as he &#8216;crosses over&#8217;.<br />
I think it&#8217;s worse with music too. Years back I remember a new word being coined in newspaper reports &#8211; &#8216;kidults&#8217; and this was used to describe people who liked &#8216;boy bands&#8217; and Saturday morning telly &#8211; can&#8217;t be many of them left!</p>
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